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Pafton

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  • I live in Portuguese native-British citizen-Indian resident-Home in Canada
  • I was born on January 9
  • My occupation is Lawyer • Teacher • Genealogist • Gardener • Admin • Councilor
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  • Hello! I'm Isaac, from Fandom's Editor Experience team. One project that we're excited about launching is an initiative to pair newly registered users with experienced advisors (which they can choose from). These advisors would be available for answering basic editing questions and guiding appropriate edits, in the hope that these users will become active in the local community.

    Why do this, rather than rely on admins and moderators? We've seen from research and experience (from Wikipedia) that establishing a human bond with a peer "senpai" or mentor can have a better effect on the comfort of the newcomer, especially where the high volume of edits may cause the quick response of rollbacks rather than taking the time to walk new editors through their early work. While some communities do take that time and care among their leaders, we feel an additional level might put new users at ease and help them be more comfortable with editing. Ultimately, we feel like this project will either free up some time for admins and moderators, or designate them as approachable welcomers to talk to and guide new users. We want to see how effective this is on a relatively small number of communities and see if Fandom's results are consistent with those experienced on Wikipedia. If they are, we may pursue expanding the pilot program and perhaps seeking to build it into a core part of the new platform.

    Here's what we would wish for your community to agree to:

    • At least one volunteer advisor, acting as an advisor and advocate helping newcomers. For the most part, this means responding to questions that newcomers leave the advisor in Discussions. Sometimes this may mean the advisor interacts with admins and moderators to address concerns regarding the newcomer. We have some advisors-at-large (those not tied to the local community, but available as fallbacks) already, but if you have ideas on who you might want to represent you in this role (or if you'd like to do so yourself!), feel free to contact me on my Wall or this thread.
    • Discussions / Feeds. Your community must have this active for the current solution to work. This is the primary method in which advisors have open communication with the users that choose them.
    • A change to your Welcome Messages to allow a method where a newcomer can choose an advisor.

    We are testing this for the next two months, and will see what the future of the program is thereafter. Is this a program you would feel comfortable with placing on your community?

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    • Beelzebob6666 wrote: I kind of miss an explanation though on how to get there after I selected my advisor.

      The feature is kind of meaningless if the new editor has no quick and easy way to jump to that discussion thread (especially if he has no idea about the discussion page).

      Ideally, a new button "contact advisor" would generate on every wiki page if the logged in user is taking part in the program and the button would then lead to the discussion thread.

      All of this is great feedback, and I will tell you that we're exploring additional entry points during testing. They're less likely to be as overt as a "Contact Advisor" button on every page, but it's a possibility we'll do that for users with fewer than 5 edits (and have a method somewhere else easily accessible after that point).

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    • Hi, just to let you know, I've made a blog here to gather thoughts on this program (from participants and others).

      There's also an in-progress set of guidelines with a pledge for advisors.

      It would be great if people from this wiki could visit and comment!

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  • Hi! Earlier today I added Antiques Dealer to the Special Buildings page. The only place I couldn't add it was in the Special Buldings table at the bottom of the page. That's because the "S Tab"-template is protected to prevent editing. Can you help me with that?

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  • Why should nobody create new pages on technologies. - I'm missing all those technology pages for Space Age Mars.

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    • Nee. - Eigentlich wollte ich die "Forschung: xxx" Seiten dort behalten. - Aber wenn Du zusätzlich die Seiten, auf denen die Forschungen für die einzelenen Zeitalter zusammengefasst sind, machen würdest, wäre das natürlich nice!

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    • Wie gesagt, nenne mir die Parameter und ich mach dir nen Export...

      Ich bräuchte folgende Inputs von dir: Parameters

      Du müsstest halt entsprechend ein geeignetes Template anlegen (muss ja nicht so aussehen wie hier) aber gut wäre, wenn dieses die gleichen Parameter verwendet wie {{TechBox}} - das würde die Nachbearbeitung deutlich vereinfachen. Den Namen des Templates müsstest du mir auch nennen...

      Wenn du es ähnlich haben willst wie wir es hier gemacht haben, müsstest du noch das CSS anpassen und um ein Flex-Box Element erweitern.

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  • I want historical summaries of all the eras. Can you help.

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    • yep

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    • Sure, why don't you start a discussion about it? I'll add a relevant reply wherever needed.

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      Pafton (wall | edits)
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  • Hey, I read your comment asking that I minimise the use of emojis - no prob’s but would you be kind enough to tell me why?

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    • Hi!

      I'm actually on leave, but saw this message in my email and had some free time so I'm replying.

      I enforce a minimal emoji policy in the wiki comments as well as in the Discord server. Personally, I find them to be distracting as the site has a dark background and they stand out. They're fine when you're personally texting someone or on a real-time messaging platform, but I'd rather we keep them out when using a public forum or comments section.

      I found this article to be quite insightful, and I'm sure you would find this to be an interesting read too.

      Sincerely
      Pafton (wall | edits)
      {Main Admin}

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  • From this account, I see a link to the Main Page in the top nav bar. I don't see this from my other, I mean your account. What might be the reason for the same?

    (Its so weird messaging myself)

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    09:35, July 29, 2019
    • Hmm...I don't see it from here. Maybe its because they trust that admins will at least be able to navigate their way back to the main page.

      At least I got to talk to another fox (even though its my alter ego), and that is something refreshing.

      May the fox be with you!

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  • apparently you cannot participate to discuss about events - saying your opinion - or your message is removed as ”Irrelevant” content. either there are new rules or a new content moderator has his own rules. 

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    • What do you mean? Kindly elaborate on your statement.

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      Pafton (wall | edits)
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    • deleting messages from the comment section as being ”irrelevant” under the wiki-pages related to an event. you can see it from my history which one was deleted. i quess commetting is not allowed anymore...

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    • Commenting will always be allowed as long as it is not offensively targeted at any person, does not hurt other people's sentiments and is devoid of abusive/foul language.

      In your particular case, I have seen the deletion log but was not able to view the entirety of the comment due to a technical glitch. I have gotten in touch with the concerned CM to know of the reasons why he had deleted your comment.

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      Pafton (wall | edits)
      {Main Admin}

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  • I've added the daily special for the last 2 days as i created a village on Thai server due to curiosity about that topic.

    As i have no clue how things work i just copied a previous example of the reward into the box, so that does work. However, i couldn't get the thumbnail picture in front to work. I gave it a few tries, but i always get a huge picture so i waited for someone else to finish it.

    Can someone explain me how to do that correctly or should i just keep posting the item and wait for some CM to add the picture and add the link should it be a first time item?

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    09:36, July 29, 2019
    • In the Code you probably forgot the "|40px" after the image file. This one indicates, that the image should be resized to a width of 40 pixels.

      e.g.:

      |-
      |1 July 2019
      |[[File:Winners' Plaza.png|40px]]
      |[[Winners' Plaza]]
      

      "|-" adds a new line to the table "|" or "||" indicates a new cell of the table "[[File:...]]" adds an image to the page and "[[...]]" creates a link to another page, while the "|" hereby separates parameters of the image call.

      If you just copy paste the whole "line" of a table you should usually be fine with the parameter stuff and you will only need to change the date. If you want to add an item that was not in the list before, you can either look up the code in a previous event or just add the images using the add-image-dialogue from the toolbox.

      If you want to play with some stuff, feel free to edit in the general Sandbox or create your own Sandbox by going to your own user profile page and add a page by adding e.g. "/Sandbox" in the address line of the browser

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    • Thank you for asking Ronintje, and thank you for explaining Robert, I couldn't have explained it in better words.

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      Pafton (wall | edits)
      {Main Admin}

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    • i didn't use code, just hit the edit link and didn't see any of that coding.

      i'll check out if i can find another option this evening when i check for tomorrows daily special.

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    • Yes, the visual editor is less than optimal - only really useable for editing text sections. You can choose the source editor when you click on the arrow next to the red "edit" button.

      Also you can choose your preferred editor (that is used when hitting "edit") in your profile settings.

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  • Regarding what I meant with the Todo-List on the wiki...

    You already kind of have something similar on the main page with the roles you have put in brackets behind the admins and CMs. The ToDo-page I have in mind is a little more concrete - I put a draft of the general idea in the Sandbox... Everyone that is doing a bigger Edit on the page could put his plans there and update the status from time to time. Also you could put things on the list that someone should have a look into and so on - but maybe that is just overdoing it...

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    • I have seen what you have done on the sandbox. One of the todo articles you have put up there is about the 2019 Summer Event. Just as a FYI, P&M2 and I have developed a procedure about event pages with me handling the structure and formatting and he handling the content filling, rewards etc.

      Regarding a todo page, I like the idea and the concept is good. Unfortunately, it will either be short-lived and will fall out of use quickly (like this) or it will end up being used by only the admins. This is based on my experience with the patterns followed by people who use this site.

      I would love to hear your further say on the matter, though.

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      Pafton (wall | edits)
      {Main Admin}

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    • About the Discussion Page:

      • I do not know if I have seen it before
      • If I have seen it, i found it probably too "complicated" and there are too many alternatives:
        • You can contact the admins on their walls directly
        • you can discuss directly in the articles comment section
        • and there is discord

      About the To-Do:

      • I see it mainly as a CM/admin tool to keep an overview about who does what and what needs to be done
      • It could be linked in the community section but editors that only do small stuff would not necessarily need to know about it
      • it could be linked (both directions) with the CM-recruitment message

      Personally I would not really need it, but I have seen the todo-channels on discord and also that they are barely used. Maybe because discord is just not the appropriate platform for such a thing?

      Would be interesting to see what the other admins/CMs think about it.

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    • Renamed it to "Projects" - seems more accurate than "To-Do". Also added an introductory paragraph...

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    • The purpose of me highlighting the Community Discussions page was exactly achieved. Even though it was intended as a focal point for the wiki's community, it hardly got any recognition. Of course, the page was the predecessor of the Discord server and the successor of the archaic forums. I may have forgotten to mention it, but the page does need to be updated with the latest details about who and whom to contact in case of any thing.

      If the Projects page is meant to be as an admin/CM tool, then I wholeheartedly support it. I have no doubt that this wiki's admins and CMs will definitely use it, at least some of them. However, I would merely like to reiterate my point that apart from the Admin Team, I hardly doubt anybody else would use it. This concurs with a few of my findings related to this website's traffic which I shall be shortly sharing in our admin channel.

      Regarding asking other admins/CMs, I believe pinging P&M2 and Devilsangel on discord should suffice. We might need to personally drop a message on Stinkypuppy's wall on the wiki, though. As for the rest, they are hardly active or wouldn't respond to say the least, though its worth a try to ping Shadowblack.

      Sincerely
      Pafton (wall | edits)
      {Main Admin}

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  • I have seen that some pages use a color scheme to represent the ages. Regarding that, I created the template {{COL-BA}} as a test. If it is intended to widen the usage of the color scheme, this might come in handy - please let me know if I should prepare the same for the other ages. In that case, please also let me know what of the three examples you expect to be the most commonly used - I will adjust the parameter settings then, so the common use will need the least parameters.

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